From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Feb 15 08:51:15 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Friday, February 15 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2742 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: xj: 42RE help? RE: xj: 42RE help? RE: xj: 42RE help? XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:41:33 -0600 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help? I plan to buy a whole jeep and then part the rest to cover my expenses. I have a yard nearby that is really cheap, but probably don't have a trans that new. Allen> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:41:10 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To: xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> > would expect it to be $75 to $100 via fed ex ground...> but you're right, you can get one locally for $150 out of a yard, right?> > -----> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote:> > # Shipping might be prohibitive to GA. I will have to start watching on> # craigslist for a wrecked 96-97 xj. I think I will need to keep the model year> # about the same in order to complete the swap.> # > # Allen> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:23:15 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To:> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> > I have a good AW4 out here in> # seattle... I went with> a 6.2L in my '91 GW instead of the 4.0. I sold my >> # 4.0 and 4.2 and plan on selling the '67 panel, my son> is keeping the 360 in> # the '89 GW, so I'll be selling> my extra transmissions... a good AW4 and a> # good T5.> > you can by pass the computer with a set of switches,> but I should> # have the computer somewhere too...> > john> > ----->> # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > On> # Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote:> > # I probably need to start looking> # for a donor XJ to pilfer.> # > # Allen> From: allenzylstra-at-hotmail.com> To:> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj:> # 42RE help?> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:26:19> # -0600> > Yep. It also likes slow> # acceleration. I don't know how much longer> # I got,> but it has been like this> # for about 3 years.> > I don't put alot of> # miles on it. It is the secondary> # vehicle and trailer> tower.> > Allen>> # Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:06:34 -0800>> # From: dsmith-at-mypchelp.com> To:>> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help?> >> # Curious, does your 42re have> # a> significant delay when cold to shift from>> # neutral to drive?> My> # original 42re> had that problem before and after first> # rebuild, after the>> # second rebuild> with the transgo shift kit the problem was> # gone, and this>> # second 42re also> had the delay shifting into gear.> >> # Thanks,> Dave> > On> # 2/14/08, Allen> Zylstra wrote:>> # >> > That is> # going to be my plan> when the 42re goes. I have 170K and still> >> # chuggin.> # The 93 ZJ had the AW4 so> the correct mounts are available> > stock.> # I> >> # think a computer from an XJ is> needed to control the AW4 and give the> # PCM>> # > the> > correct signals.> >> >> Allen> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:30:58> #> # - -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com>> >> To:> > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj:> #> # 42RE help?> > sounds like a lockup> >> issue... or> >> > a torque> #> # converter...> > any possibility of migrating that> trans to an AW4> > or> > a>> # # 45RFE?> > john> > ----->> >>> #> # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> >>> #> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> >>> #> # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> >>> #> # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >>> # # >> On> > Wed, 13 Feb 2008, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote:> > # Good thing> #> # there> is> > a> > warranty on it.> # I would bring it back without fooling> #> # around> with it.>> > #> > Does it only do this in 1st gear?> # > # Jesse.> #> # >> # # -----> Original> > Message> > -----> # From: David Smith > # Date:> #> # Wednesday,> February 13, 2008 1:55 am>> > #> > Subject: xj: 42RE help?> #> # To:>> # xj-at-digest.net> # > # > Well my 97 Jeep had> > a> > 42RE failure again,> # this>> # time I opted to > # > put in an> # > unknown> > mileage> > tranny> # bought from>> # a wrecker with 6 mo warranty.> # > > # > It seems to> > work>> # > OK, the only>> # issue I have is that from a dead > # > stop if I do> # >> # any> > more> > than>> # slowly throttle up the tranny starts to chatter > # >> # and skip.> # >> > If I>>> # > start off the line slowish then accelerate I can> # accelerate > # > as hard>> # >> as>> > # > I want with no problems.> # > > # >> # Any ideas what this might> # be?>> #> >> >> #> # _________________________________________________________________> >> Connect>> # # and share in new ways with Windows Live.> >> >>> #> # http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008>>> # # _________________________________________________________________> Climb to>> # # the top of the charts! 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You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:48:27 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help? that's what I do... been busy with the last grad school class and teaching, was trying to go and look at a GW locally for parts, like I really need more FSJs here... :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote: # I plan to buy a whole jeep and then part the rest to cover my expenses. I # have a yard nearby that is really cheap, but probably don't have a trans that # new. # # Allen> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:41:10 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To: # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> > would expect it to be $75 to # $100 via fed ex ground...> but you're right, you can get one locally for $150 # out of a yard, right?> > -----> # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > On # Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote:> > # Shipping might be prohibitive to # GA. I will have to start watching on> # craigslist for a wrecked 96-97 xj. I # think I will need to keep the model year> # about the same in order to # complete the swap.> # > # Allen> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:23:15 -0800> From: # john-at-wagoneers.com> To:> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> > I # have a good AW4 out here in> # seattle... I went with> a 6.2L in my '91 GW # instead of the 4.0. I sold my >> # 4.0 and 4.2 and plan on selling the '67 # panel, my son> is keeping the 360 in> # the '89 GW, so I'll be selling> my # extra transmissions... a good AW4 and a> # good T5.> > you can by pass the # computer with a set of switches,> but I should> # have the computer somewhere # too...> > john> > ----->> # # ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> # # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> # # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> # # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > # On> # Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote:> > # I probably need to start # looking> # for a donor XJ to pilfer.> # > # Allen> From: # allenzylstra-at-hotmail.com> To:> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj:> # 42RE # help?> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:26:19> # -0600> > Yep. It also likes slow> # # acceleration. I don't know how much longer> # I got,> but it has been like # this> # for about 3 years.> > I don't put alot of> # miles on it. It is the # secondary> # vehicle and trailer> tower.> > Allen>> # Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 # 11:06:34 -0800>> # From: dsmith-at-mypchelp.com> To:>> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: # Re: xj: 42RE help?> >> # Curious, does your 42re have> # a> significant delay # when cold to shift from>> # neutral to drive?> My> # original 42re> had that # problem before and after first> # rebuild, after the>> # second rebuild> with # the transgo shift kit the problem was> # gone, and this>> # second 42re also> # had the delay shifting into gear.> >> # Thanks,> Dave> > On> # 2/14/08, Allen> # Zylstra wrote:>> # >> > That is> # going to be my # plan> when the 42re goes. I have 170K and still> >> # chuggin.> # The 93 ZJ # had the AW4 so> the correct mounts are available> > stock.> # I> >> # think a # computer from an XJ is> needed to control the AW4 and give the> # PCM>> # > # the> > correct signals.> >> >> Allen> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:30:58> #> # # -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com>> >> To:> > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj:> # #> # 42RE help?> > sounds like a lockup> >> issue... or> >> > a torque> #> # # converter...> > any possibility of migrating that> trans to an AW4> > or> > # a>> # # 45RFE?> > john> > ----->> >>> #> # # ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> >>> # #> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> >>> # #> # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> >>> #> # # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >>> # # # >> On> > Wed, 13 Feb 2008, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote:> > # Good thing> # #> # there> is> > a> > warranty on it.> # I would bring it back without # fooling> #> # around> with it.>> > #> > Does it only do this in 1st gear?> # > # # Jesse.> #> # >> # # -----> Original> > Message> > -----> # From: David Smith # > # Date:> #> # Wednesday,> February 13, 2008 1:55 am>> > #> > Subject: xj: # 42RE help?> #> # To:>> # xj-at-digest.net> # > # > Well my 97 Jeep had> > a> > # 42RE failure again,> # this>> # time I opted to > # > put in an> # > unknown> # > mileage> > tranny> # bought from>> # a wrecker with 6 mo warranty.> # > > # # > It seems to> > work>> # > OK, the only>> # issue I have is that from a dead # > # > stop if I do> # >> # any> > more> > than>> # slowly throttle up the # tranny starts to chatter > # >> # and skip.> # >> > If I>>> # > start off the # line slowish then accelerate I can> # accelerate > # > as hard>> # >> as>> > # # > I want with no problems.> # > > # >> # Any ideas what this might> # be?>> #> # >> >> #> # _________________________________________________________________> # >> Connect>> # # and share in new ways with Windows Live.> >> >>> #> # # http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008>>> # # # _________________________________________________________________> Climb # to>> # # the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star> # power.>>> # # # http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan>> # # # _________________________________________________________________> # Shed> # # those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> #> # # http://biggestloser.msn.com/> #> # # _________________________________________________________________> # Shed # those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> # # http://biggestloser.msn.com/> # # _________________________________________________________________ # Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. # http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:47:48 -0600 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help? I may just part the ZJ. I just saw a MJ listed for $550. Allen> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:48:27 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To: xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> > that's what I do... been busy with the last grad school class> and teaching, was trying to go and look at a GW locally for parts,> like I really need more FSJs here... :)> > john> > - -----> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote:> > # I plan to buy a whole jeep and then part the rest to cover my expenses. I> # have a yard nearby that is really cheap, but probably don't have a trans that> # new.> # > # Allen> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:41:10 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To:> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> > would expect it to be $75 to> # $100 via fed ex ground...> but you're right, you can get one locally for $150> # out of a yard, right?> > ----->> # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > On> # Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote:> > # Shipping might be prohibitive to> # GA. I will have to start watching on> # craigslist for a wrecked 96-97 xj. I> # think I will need to keep the model year> # about the same in order to> # complete the swap.> # > # Allen> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:23:15 -0800> From:> # john-at-wagoneers.com> To:> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> > I> # have a good AW4 out here in> # seattle... I went with> a 6.2L in my '91 GW> # instead of the 4.0. I sold my >> # 4.0 and 4.2 and plan on selling the '67> # panel, my son> is keeping the 360 in> # the '89 GW, so I'll be selling> my> # extra transmissions... a good AW4 and a> # good T5.> > you can by pass the> # computer with a set of switches,> but I should> # have the computer somewhere> # too...> > john> > ----->> #> # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> #> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> #> # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> #> # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > >> # On> # Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Allen Zylstra wrote:> > # I probably need to start> # looking> # for a donor XJ to pilfer.> # > # Allen> From:> # allenzylstra-at-hotmail.com> To:> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj:> # 42RE> # help?> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:26:19> # -0600> > Yep. It also likes slow> #> # acceleration. I don't know how much longer> # I got,> but it has been like> # this> # for about 3 years.> > I don't put alot of> # miles on it. It is the> # secondary> # vehicle and trailer> tower.> > Allen>> # Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008> # 11:06:34 -0800>> # From: dsmith-at-mypchelp.com> To:>> # xj-at-digest.net> Subject:> # Re: xj: 42RE help?> >> # Curious, does your 42re have> # a> significant delay> # when cold to shift from>> # neutral to drive?> My> # original 42re> had that> # problem before and after first> # rebuild, after the>> # second rebuild> with> # the transgo shift kit the problem was> # gone, and this>> # second 42re also>> # had the delay shifting into gear.> >> # Thanks,> Dave> > On> # 2/14/08, Allen>> # Zylstra wrote:>> # >> > That is> # going to be my> # plan> when the 42re goes. I have 170K and still> >> # chuggin.> # The 93 ZJ> # had the AW4 so> the correct mounts are available> > stock.> # I> >> # think a> # computer from an XJ is> needed to control the AW4 and give the> # PCM>> # >> # the> > correct signals.> >> >> Allen> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:30:58> #> #> # -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com>> >> To:> > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj:>> # #> # 42RE help?> > sounds like a lockup> >> issue... or> >> > a torque> #> #> # converter...> > any possibility of migrating that> trans to an AW4> > or> >> # a>> # # 45RFE?> > john> > ----->> >>> #> #> # - ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> >>>> # #> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> >>>> # #> # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> >>> #> #> # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >>>> # # # >> On> > Wed, 13 Feb 2008, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote:> > # Good thing>> # #> # there> is> > a> > warranty on it.> # I would bring it back without> # fooling> #> # around> with it.>> > #> > Does it only do this in 1st gear?> # >> # # Jesse.> #> # >> # # -----> Original> > Message> > -----> # From: David Smith> # > # Date:> #> # Wednesday,> February 13, 2008 1:55 am>> > #> > Subject: xj:> # 42RE help?> #> # To:>> # xj-at-digest.net> # > # > Well my 97 Jeep had> > a> >> # 42RE failure again,> # this>> # time I opted to > # > put in an> # > unknown>> # > mileage> > tranny> # bought from>> # a wrecker with 6 mo warranty.> # > > #> # > It seems to> > work>> # > OK, the only>> # issue I have is that from a dead> # > # > stop if I do> # >> # any> > more> > than>> # slowly throttle up the> # tranny starts to chatter > # >> # and skip.> # >> > If I>>> # > start off the> # line slowish then accelerate I can> # accelerate > # > as hard>> # >> as>> > #> # > I want with no problems.> # > > # >> # Any ideas what this might> # be?>> #>> # >> >> #> # _________________________________________________________________>> # >> Connect>> # # and share in new ways with Windows Live.> >> >>> #> #> # http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008>> >> # # # _________________________________________________________________> Climb> # to>> # # the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star>> # power.>>> # #> # http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan>> #> # # _________________________________________________________________> # Shed> #> # those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> #> #> # http://biggestloser.msn.com/> #> #> # _________________________________________________________________> # Shed> # those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser!> #> # http://biggestloser.msn.com/> #> # _________________________________________________________________> # Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give.> # http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join> # _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2742 *************************