From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Mar 10 15:33:47 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, March 10 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2754 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Re: [db] fuel prices xj: sorry about the mistakes on the last letter here is a slightly better one Re: xj: Re: [db] fuel prices xj: Sunday drive XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:11:41 EST From: Moontanman-at-aol.com Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] fuel prices In a message dated 3/7/2008 12:13:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john-at-wagoneers.com writes: very cool... up here we could cover our vehicles with these things... and use the power to recharge our ipods... maybe... on sunny days... let's see, that would be sometime in august... most years... Most people don't understand people don't understand they would almost Most people don't understand you would have to practically pave the entire country with solar cells to even come close to meeting demand, even if demand were made smaller by more efficient electrical devices. Modern nuclear power and in some areas geothermal power is the only option unless you want coal plants spewing out tons of radioactive material that are locked away in coal. A coal power house releases many times the radionucliotides a nuclear reactor does even when you count the old fuel rods which will be fuel for the next generation of nuclear power plants resulting in nuclear waste that doesn't need to be stored practically forever nor is it as radioactive the waste we produce now. Fusion power is almost as bad as regular nuclear. Hydrogen fusion produces neutrons which make everything they come into contact with radioactive! Fusion power plants would have a short life span and then have to abandoned for Mega centuries, the only really benign power is aneutronic power made by fusing helium three. It makes nothing radioactive and the electromagnetic energy released could be converted directly into electricity with out turbines or any of the other 19th century technology we have to use today. The catch is that helium three only exists in large amounts in the regolith of the moon and some other planets. Earth has almost none. One load of helium three that would fit in the space shuttles cargo bay could supply the entire USA with power for at least one year! Michael Hissom aurea mediocritas **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:17:44 EST From: Moontanman-at-aol.com Subject: xj: sorry about the mistakes on the last letter here is a slightly better one Most people don't understand you would have to practically pave the entire country with solar cells to even come close to meeting demand, even if demand were made smaller by more efficient electrical devices. Modern nuclear power and in some areas geothermal power is the only option unless you want coal plants spewing out tons of radioactive material that are locked away in coal. A coal power house releases many times the radionucliotides a nuclear reactor does even when you count the old fuel rods which will be fuel for the next generation of nuclear power plants resulting in nuclear waste that doesn't need to be stored practically forever nor is it as radioactive the waste we produce now. Fusion power is almost as bad as regular nuclear. Hydrogen fusion produces neutrons which make everything they come into contact with radioactive! Fusion power plants would have a short life span and then have to abandoned for Mega centuries, the only really benign power is aneutronic power made by fusing helium three. It makes nothing radioactive and the electromagnetic energy released could be converted directly into electricity with out turbines or any of the other 19th century technology we have to use today. The catch is that helium three only exists in large amounts in the regolith of the moon and some other planets. Earth has almost none. One load of helium three that would fit in the space shuttles cargo bay could supply the entire USA with power for at least one year! Michael Hissom aurea mediocritas **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:38:14 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] fuel prices we will develop the technology... in amazing ways... look at the way Jeeps have improved over the years... (mlc) like that kid down in San Antonio that converted his XJ to electric... one big honkin' DC motor attached to his transmission... we know so little about the creation... our understanding of science is so limited... just look at the periodic table for the last few centuries, http://wagoneers.com/CS/Science/PeriodicTable/History-of-Periodic-Table.html we're essentially clueless... the Lord has hidden so many things for us in the creation... as we uncover them prepare to be amazed. :) While global warming is, in my opinion, based on hearing the experts declare coming ice ages and global warming over the last 40 years or so, is pretty much junk science. We have maybe 100 to 150 years of meterological data to work with... beyond that we make extrapolations based on a uniformitarinism view of core samples, tree rings and so on... we simply do not have enough information... but all that said, it it driving technology, and that is a GOOD thing... I guess we need a crisis to bring out the best in development... too bad we have to be motivated in such ways... :) who would have thought that we'd be driving around in the vehicles we have today and talking on cell phones, using computers and wireless networks... dang, when the first calculators came out they cost about three times more than a month's rent! john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Moontanman-at-aol.com wrote: # In a message dated 3/7/2008 12:13:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, # john-at-wagoneers.com writes: # # very cool... up here we could cover our vehicles with these things... # and use the power to recharge our ipods... maybe... on sunny days... # let's see, that would be sometime in august... most years... # # Most people don't understand people don't understand they would almost Most # people don't understand you would have to practically pave the entire country # with solar cells to even come close to meeting demand, even if demand were # made smaller by more efficient electrical devices. Modern nuclear power and in # some areas geothermal power is the only option unless you want coal plants # spewing out tons of radioactive material that are locked away in coal. A coal # power house releases many times the radionucliotides a nuclear reactor does # even when you count the old fuel rods which will be fuel for the next # generation of nuclear power plants resulting in nuclear waste that doesn't need to be # stored practically forever nor is it as radioactive the waste we produce # now. Fusion power is almost as bad as regular nuclear. Hydrogen fusion produces # neutrons which make everything they come into contact with radioactive! # Fusion power plants would have a short life span and then have to abandoned for # Mega centuries, the only really benign power is aneutronic power made by fusing # helium three. It makes nothing radioactive and the electromagnetic energy # released could be converted directly into electricity with out turbines or any # of the other 19th century technology we have to use today. The catch is that # helium three only exists in large amounts in the regolith of the moon and # some other planets. Earth has almost none. One load of helium three that would # fit in the space shuttles cargo bay could supply the entire USA with power for # at least one year! # # Michael Hissom # aurea mediocritas ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Sunday drive went for a drive yesterday... (at the price of fuel drove the '91 300D. ;) mountains were out despite serious overcast... swans were in the valley, didn't get a good picture... went over to a friend's house to pick up some bioDiesel... got some snapshots of his setup, he also has a beautiful 65 XKE, got to drive it a while back... love that hood... those old Jags are beautiful machines... http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/03-Mar-09-mtns-jag-bioDiesel/ALL.html no progress on shop or jeeps... my son figured out a few issues on his "new" '85 300D... with longer days I hope to get a lot more done soon... finished my masters, wed is the final exam for my students... feel a road trip coming on... need to get Omega up and running, waiting for parts... :( it's almost 60 degrees outside... spring has sprung in the PNW: http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/03-Mar-05-300Ds-n-Spring/ALL.html later, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2754 *************************