From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Mar 18 14:22:54 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, March 18 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2758 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Win32.netsky (OT) xj: Re: mark your calendar... Re: xj: check engine light Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... Re: xj: check engine light Re: xj: Yakima on an XJ Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... Re: xj: Yakima on an XJ Re: xj: Yakima on an XJ XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:17:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Kummel Subject: Re: xj: Win32.netsky (OT) The Microsoft malware tool will remove that: http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/families.mspx I would suggest that you download it from a non-infected machine and put it on a USB memory stick. boot your infected computer into safe mode, pop in the usb memory stick and run the app from there. Ed web/gadget guru john wrote: I'll get back to you... will research it... john - ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Moontanman-at-aol.com wrote: # My computer has become infected with the win32.netsky worm. If anyone knows # of a way to eliminate this worm please let me in on the secret. It has almost # made my computer unusable. I can't keep up with the thing it is letting # through the back door (so to speak) of my computer. this is crazy I thought I had # all the anti virus protection I needed but since I had to go back to dial up # from road Runner high speed the problems keep getting worse with this being # the worst and so far impossible to get rid of. I keep thinking about people # sitting in front of their computer thinking of ways to drive me crazy and # other siting in front of theirs try to think, of ways to make money off me going # crazy. Probably the same people! # # Michael # # # In a message dated 3/18/2008 11:15:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, # john-at-wagoneers.com writes: # # On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf Diesel, the inventor of # the # Diesel engine, was born in Paris. # # :) # john # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # # # # # **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & # Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) # - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Man, you people make me want to go kick an iMac." - Response to a Mac FanBoy on the critical Leopard "move" bug - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:45:19 -0400 From: "Don Hansen" Subject: xj: Re: mark your calendar... In 1966 I got my driver's license on this date. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "undisclosed-recipients:" Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: xj: mark your calendar... > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf Diesel, the inventor > of the > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. > > :) > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:52:26 -0400 From: "Don Hansen" Subject: Re: xj: check engine light I believe 97 had OBD II>You need a code reader. Look for a socket in front of your left knee under the dash. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: Re: xj: check engine light > that was just replaced... by the previous owner... might > be a failed part, we'll see... > > she needs an oil change anyway, quality family/wrenching time. :) > > my benz needs an oil change, my son's benz needs an oil change... > waiting for the lift pump for my Grand WAgoneer's 6.2L Diesel... so > I guess I get to work on gas engines for a bit too. :) > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Ed Kummel wrote: > > # I was able to get the on-off-on key trick on my wife's '96...I don't > think a '97 would be different. > # Depending on the mileage, I've found that every time my engine light > went on, it was my O2 sensor... > # Ed > # web/gadget guru > # > # john wrote: > # my daughter called... check engine light on. > # '97 country 4.0/aw4... > # > # does the on-off-on-off trick work to spit out the codes on the '97? > # > # what is the most likely suspect for a check engine light on the '97? > # > # thanx, > # john > # > # ----- > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > # "Man, you people make me want to go kick an iMac." > # - Response to a Mac FanBoy on the critical Leopard "move" bug > # > # --------------------------------- > # Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. > # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:08:31 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... dude, you're six years older than me? cool. or is it seven? math isn't my strongest skill. ;) neither is my memory, can't remember if I got my license in '72 or '73. :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Hansen wrote: # In 1966 I got my driver's license on this date. # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" # Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:20 AM # Subject: xj: mark your calendar... # # # > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf Diesel, the inventor # > of the # > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. # > # > :) # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:09:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: check engine light why does my '99 WJ work with the code odomete rthing? my daughter tried it at lunch, didn't spit up any codes... told her to go to a schucks and have them read the codes... :( john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Hansen wrote: # I believe 97 had OBD II>You need a code reader. Look for a socket in front of # your left knee under the dash. # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: # Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 12:25 PM # Subject: Re: xj: check engine light # # # > that was just replaced... by the previous owner... might # > be a failed part, we'll see... # > # > she needs an oil change anyway, quality family/wrenching time. :) # > # > my benz needs an oil change, my son's benz needs an oil change... # > waiting for the lift pump for my Grand WAgoneer's 6.2L Diesel... so # > I guess I get to work on gas engines for a bit too. :) # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Ed Kummel wrote: # > # > # I was able to get the on-off-on key trick on my wife's '96...I don't # > think a '97 would be different. # > # Depending on the mileage, I've found that every time my engine light # > went on, it was my O2 sensor... # > # Ed # > # web/gadget guru # > # # > # john wrote: # > # my daughter called... check engine light on. # > # '97 country 4.0/aw4... # > # # > # does the on-off-on-off trick work to spit out the codes on the '97? # > # # > # what is the most likely suspect for a check engine light on the '97? # > # # > # thanx, # > # john # > # # > # ----- # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > # "Man, you people make me want to go kick an iMac." # > # - Response to a Mac FanBoy on the critical Leopard "move" bug # > # # > # --------------------------------- # > # Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! # > Search. # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:18:00 -0700 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: xj: Yakima on an XJ hi David! Q towers? why use something that touches the painted surfaces? i've been using the standard 1A towers to carry bikes, skis, lumber and sofa beds on my '94 since about, uh, '94,... that way the only part that get buggered up is the drip rail itself. ;-) cheers! e David Bierschank wrote: > Quick question for you guys on using a Yakima rack on my 87 XJ. I just > bought, but have not yet picked up a use Yakima roof rack. It comes with Q > towers and if I put the info in Yakima's web site it shows getting the Q30 > clips, however my XJ has the chrome drip rail. Question: Can I use the Q > tower and Q30 clips with that drip rail, or do I need to pick up a set for > towers designed for the rain guard? I am not sure that the chrome piece is > actually a rain guard..... > > I figured I could call/email Yakima, but they would probably know a lot less > than this group...... > > Thanks for any help you guys can provide. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:33:01 -0400 From: "Don Hansen" Subject: Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... I realize my childish posts make me appear younger.....! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... > dude, you're six years older than me? cool. > or is it seven? math isn't my strongest skill. ;) > neither is my memory, can't remember if I got my > license in '72 or '73. :) > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Hansen wrote: > > # In 1966 I got my driver's license on this date. > # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" > # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" > # Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:20 AM > # Subject: xj: mark your calendar... > # > # > # > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf Diesel, the > inventor > # > of the > # > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. > # > > # > :) > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... it's working! :) we may be getting older, our minds may be writing checks our body can't cash... but we refuse to grow up.... besides, I still haven't figured out what I want to be when I grow up yet... I guess my first priority is getting my Diesel Jeep working... and when I get done with the '91 Grand Wagoneer 6.2L project I may look at putting a newer style Mercedes Diesel in either a nice XJ limited or a WJ... seems to take longer to do these projects than I first thought, so if I start planning now I might have it working by the time this one breaks or wears out... :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Hansen wrote: # I realize my childish posts make me appear younger.....! # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: # Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:08 PM # Subject: Re: xj: Re: mark your calendar... # # # > dude, you're six years older than me? cool. # > or is it seven? math isn't my strongest skill. ;) # > neither is my memory, can't remember if I got my # > license in '72 or '73. :) # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Hansen wrote: # > # > # In 1966 I got my driver's license on this date. # > # # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # > # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" # > # Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:20 AM # > # Subject: xj: mark your calendar... # > # # > # # > # > On March 18, 1858, German mechanical engineer Rudolf Diesel, the # > inventor # > # > of the # > # > Diesel engine, was born in Paris. # > # > # > # > :) # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:16:58 -0500 From: "David Bierschank" Subject: Re: xj: Yakima on an XJ Thanks for the input. That is one reason I was asking. I am buying this used from someone and it comes with Q towers, but I was thinking I may need to convert over to 1a towers, just did not want to buy extra parts unless I needed to do so. Thank you, David On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:18 PM, ernest breakfield < ernestb-at-backyardengineering.org> wrote: > hi David! > > Q towers? why use something that touches the painted surfaces? > i've been using the standard 1A towers to carry bikes, skis, lumber > and sofa beds on my '94 since about, uh, '94,... that way the only part > that get buggered up is the drip rail itself. ;-) > > > cheers! > e > > > David Bierschank wrote: > > Quick question for you guys on using a Yakima rack on my 87 XJ. I just > > bought, but have not yet picked up a use Yakima roof rack. It comes > with Q > > towers and if I put the info in Yakima's web site it shows getting the > Q30 > > clips, however my XJ has the chrome drip rail. Question: Can I use the > Q > > tower and Q30 clips with that drip rail, or do I need to pick up a set > for > > towers designed for the rain guard? I am not sure that the chrome piece > is > > actually a rain guard..... > > > > I figured I could call/email Yakima, but they would probably know a lot > less > > than this group...... > > > > Thanks for any help you guys can provide. > - -- David Bierschank Okiebinder okc67mustang-at-gmail.com okiebinder-at-cox.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:16:24 -0700 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: xj: Yakima on an XJ yeah, i don't know if i'd trust the Q clips; the outermost part of the rain gutter (chrome, in your case) isn't really very securely attached to the actual rain gutter itself, and they get a little 'wiggly' after serious use. since the 1A tower sits right into the gutter, this isn't as much of an issue either. cheers! e David Bierschank wrote: > Thanks for the input. That is one reason I was asking. I am buying this > used from someone and it comes with Q towers, but I was thinking I may need > to convert over to 1a towers, just did not want to buy extra parts unless I > needed to do so. > Thank you, > David > > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:18 PM, ernest breakfield < > ernestb-at-backyardengineering.org> wrote: > > >> hi David! >> >> Q towers? why use something that touches the painted surfaces? >> i've been using the standard 1A towers to carry bikes, skis, lumber >> and sofa beds on my '94 since about, uh, '94,... that way the only part >> that get buggered up is the drip rail itself. ;-) >> >> >> cheers! >> e >> >> >> David Bierschank wrote: >> >>> Quick question for you guys on using a Yakima rack on my 87 XJ. I just >>> bought, but have not yet picked up a use Yakima roof rack. It comes >>> >> with Q >> >>> towers and if I put the info in Yakima's web site it shows getting the >>> >> Q30 >> >>> clips, however my XJ has the chrome drip rail. Question: Can I use the >>> >> Q >> >>> tower and Q30 clips with that drip rail, or do I need to pick up a set >>> >> for >> >>> towers designed for the rain guard? I am not sure that the chrome piece >>> >> is >> >>> actually a rain guard..... >>> >>> I figured I could call/email Yakima, but they would probably know a lot >>> >> less >> >>> than this group...... >>> >>> Thanks for any help you guys can provide. ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2758 *************************